The Las Vegas Dealer
for 6/25/98
THE PERSONAL TRUTH ABOUT ODDS IN CRAPS
A friend of mine has been a professional gambler almost all his life.
I once asked him what the best bet was. He answered, “The best bet
the is one you win.” That sounded pretty good to me. Unfortunately
most people can not find this type of bet often enough to make a
living at the tables. As far as I am concerned a good bet is one that
pays off as close as possible to the real or “true” odds. Knowing
how to figure this out will could make you a better informed and a more
effective player.
What are odds and how are they calculated? Some, like the odds in
sports or horse betting, are the results of informed opinions of
people who’s jobs are to study past performances, the current state of
the participants’ health, how they look at practice, etc. There are
many different games in a casino. Each has its odds figured in a
different way due but primarily figured to make sure the player will
lose more times than win; this insures the casino will get a certain
percentage of every dollar you bet. To be an effective player you
have to compare the odds against winning to the pay off to get the
best bets for the money.
I will be using craps to explain how odds are determined. I won’t be
explaining the entire game but hopefully by the end of this column you
will have a better understanding of odds and some of the bets on the
craps table. With one exception there won’t be any display of
percentages here. There are plenty of books and articles that have
them if you are interested, or you can figure them out.
The odds against winning any bet in craps is determined by comparing
the number ways to win a bet compared to the number of ways to lose
it. “Ways” in craps refers to the amount of dice combination for any
given number. With the two, six sided dice used in craps there are a
total of 36 ways or possible combinations. Here is a ways table to
display them:
2: 1-1 (1/36)
3: 1-2, 2-1 (2/36)
4: 1-3, 3-1, 2-2 (3/36)
5: 1-4, 4-2, 2-3, 3-2 (4/36)
6: 1-5, 5-1, 4-2, 2-4, 3-3 (5/36)
7: 1-6, 6-1, 2-5, 5-2, 3-4, 4-3 (6/36)
8: 2-6, 6-2, 3-5, 5-3, 4-4 (5/36)
9: 3-6, 6-3, 4-5, 5-4 (4/36)
10: 4-6, 6-4, 5-5 (3/36)
11: 5-6, 6-5 (2/36)
12: 6-6 (1/36)
Now, before you start yelling at your computer screen, “Hey, no fair!
Look at the 11. A 5 and 6 are the same as 6 and 5.” If you are
getting confused, think of a red die and a blue die (two are dice, one
is a die) or any two colors you choose. This should make it easier
for your to see the different combinations. If you have nothing else
to do for a while, roll a pair of dice a hundred times and keep track
of each roll. It will resemble the “ways” table.
On the craps table there are different types of odds: the odds against
winning a bet, also known as “true” or real odds, the pay-off odds and
bets called laying or taking odds.
In order to better understand the difference between “true” odds and
“pay-off” odds we will take a look at some of the proposition bets,
those bets in the middle of the table. The pay offs I’m going to use
are generally the same as those on the Strip in Las Vegas. Downtown
casinos and some off strip properties may have slightly different,
even slightly better pay offs.
We will start with the “hard way” bets. A hard way may be bet any
time you like. You may remove your hard way bets or move them to
different bets any time before you lose. The only way to win is for
the dice to come up as shown on the table. The HARD 8(H8) is won if
it is thrown hard, that is a 4-4. If easy 8 eight (any other
combination adding up to 8, such as 3-5) or a 7 is thrown you will
lose your bet on the H8.
By checking the “ways” table we can see that there are six ways to
make a 7 and four ways to make an easy 8, so there are ten ways to
lose (L). There is only one way to win (W) the H8, 4-4. The
odds(10L/1W) are 10 to 1 against winning the H8 bet.
The payoff for the H8 is 10 FOR 1; it says so right on the table under
the picture of the dice showing the two fours. However, this is not
the same as 10 to 1. In casino-math the word FOR means subtract one
from the pay off. For example, if you had $1 bet on the H8 and won,
the pay off would be your $1 plus the casino’s $9 for a total of $10.
So, while the real or “true” odds against throwing a H8 are ten to
one, the pay off is actually nine to one.
How about the ANY 7 bet? You get one roll to make a 7 to win;
anything other than a 7, you lose.
Going back to the “ways” table you notice that there are six ways to
make a 7, so there are 6 ways to win (W). There are thirty ways to
lose (L) (thirty-six total possible combinations minus the six ways to
make a 7 = 30). The odds against winning are (30L/6W = 5/1) 5 to 1.
However the pay-off indicated on the table says 5 FOR 1, so the pay
off is really 4 to 1.
How about betting on the 12? There is one way to win and thirty-five
ways to lose. The odds against rolling a 12 on any one roll are 35 to
1. The pay-off says 30 FOR 1. If you win you should be getting back
$35 for every $1 you bet but instead, you get back $29 remember
casino-math.
It is exciting to throw a $5 check and yell, “Twelve!” and watch it
come in, winning $145 (plus your original $5 bet = $150). Do not
count on winning this type of bet with any regularity. The difference
between the “true” odds and the pay-off is what gives the casino its
built in advantage. Even if everyone played perfectly and the dice
landed as statistics indicate they should, the casino would still take
a percentage of every dollar played due to this difference.
The “taking odds” bet: This is the best bet in Las Vegas. How can
you tell? If for no other reason, because you will never hear a craps
stick-man say, “Take the odds,” as part of his chatter. As a dealer
you get used to players’ styles of betting. Sometimes they forget a
bet they would normally make and appreciate it (sometimes with a nice
tip) if they are reminded. For example, a guy who always has a bet on
the H8, just lost it and didn’t re-bet it, would get a friendly, “Your
hard eight fell, do you want it back up [it lost, do you want to bet
it again?]?” This is part of the service offered by a good dealer and
encouraged by the casino. The more bets on the table the more $$$ the
casino makes. This is even true for the odds bet, to some extent.
This bet, however, has the potential to cost the casino’s more money
over the long run than any other bet on the table.
A dealer friend of mine told me of an incident when a player didn’t
put down his odds bet as he usually did. The pit boss heard the dealer
remind him and whispered harshly in my ear, “You tell another @#$!&^
person to bet the %$#@!&* odds, find another ^%$^&$@ place to
work.” The bosses would be happy if the odds bet just went away.
The (taking) odds bet is made after a PASS line point is established
or with a COME bet after it is moved from the COME line to one of the
six numbers (4,5,6,8,9,10) at the top of the playing area. Let’s say I
bet $5 on the PASS line on the come out roll (no point yet). I roll a
4 so that becomes the point. I take another $5 and place it behind
the PASS line bet as an odds bet. If a 7 shows before a 4, I lose.
To win I have to roll another 4 before I roll a 7. I roll another 4
and I win! The $5 bet on the PASS line pays $5, even money. The odds
bet pays $10, 2 to 1.
Why does the odds bet pay 2 to 1?. There are six ways to lose (by
throwing a 7) and three ways to win (by throwing a 4). The odds
against throwing a 4 before a 7 are (6L/3W = 2/1) 2 to 1. You are
starting to see it, right? The pay off (2 to 1) is exactly the same
as the “true” odds against making a 4 before a 7. That means the odds
bet itself has ZERO advantage to the house; of course there is no
advantage to you either. It is the only bet in the city where there
is no advantage to the casino. However, because a PASS line or COME
line bet is required to make an odds bet the overall percentage in
favor of the casino on the odds bet is around .8%. That is 8/10ths of
a percent! If there is a bet in Las Vegas that has less percentage in
favor of the casino I would like to hear about it.
This is why casino’s that advertise multiple X odds on craps do such a
good business. Betting in a casino that only allows single odds means
you can only take odds up to the amount of your line bet. If you want
to take $25 worth of odds you have to have a $25 line bet; conversely,
with that line bet the most odds you can have is $25. If you win on a
4 as the point, you win even money ($25) for the line bet and 2 to
1($50) for the odds bet for a total win of $75. Let us roll the same
point in a casino that allows 10 times (X) odds on craps with the same
$50 to bet. With a $5 PASS line bet you can bet the remaining $45 as
odds. If you lose you have lost the same amount of money as if you
had bet $25 on the pass line and $25 odds. If you win with a point of
4 you win even money ($5) for the line bet and 2 to 1 ($90) on the
odds bet for a total of $95.
I have seen a lot of people bet $100 on the PASS line with no odds
when they would have been better off betting a smaller amount on the
line and betting what remained of the $100 as odds. The same amount
of money is bet but the pay-off would be higher the bet is won. Take
all the odds you can but do not bet more than you can afford to lose.
Now you have a way, at least on the craps table, to figure out which
are the best bets for the money. Sure, betting the propositions are
fun but save them until you are ahead and bet them with the casino’s
money. There are no guarantees you will win but making the best bets
for the money will make you a more effective player.
Good luck.
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