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July, 2000


GameMaster,
I was recently at Tri-State Greyhound Park and Gaming Center ( gotta love the name ). This track near Charleston WVa has slots and multi-game-type video machine that have slots and poker. They are called Video Lottery machines because they are administered by the WVa state lottery.

The poker is terrible: Deuces with quads at 4 AND cuts in 4dueces and Royal, 8/5 Jacks with a flat 200 on Royal and 20 on quads. Bonus poker has similarly short pay schedules, too. But I think there is one exception, a game called Lucky Clover Poker. What do you think of this pay schedule?

1 Jacks+
1 2 pair
10 3x
20 straight
30 flush
45 full house
250 4x (2-10)
500 4x(J, Q, K)
1000 4 aces
350 Str. flush
4750 Royal

After the races, I found this game and sat down to play while I waited for my wife. Within 5 minutes I hit the aces, so I am naturally inclined to play this game again. But I am not sure whether the odds are good enough. Any advice on this game?
Thanks
Frank

Hi, Frank You have a "1" as the payout for Jacks+ and Two-Pair, but I assume you mean that it pays 5 for 5. If that's the case, this game returns only 91.75%, longterm. My advice is to not play it.

Yours for winning,
The GameMaster
7/27/2000



GameMaster,
I read your reviews on on-line casinos and decided to visit Gambler's palace since it was given a 90 rating and I have been looking for an on-line casino I can trust. At first glance it seemed O.K....but once I started winning, the site went crazy. It would kick me off every few rolls and give me the message casino temporarily closed. I would just log back on and on my first or second win it would happen again. After this, my $800 winning streak was erased on the most incredible string of bad luck that I suspect was fixed a bit. It seems strange that when losing the site works fine, but when winning, you find yourself disconnected and see the "casino closed" sign.

Also, they do NOT pay initial deposit bonuses of any kind, at least I never got one.

Just thought you should know this list may not be as good as you thought.
Thanks for your feedback,
Ian.

My ratings are, unfortunately, based only upon the potential of winning if the game is honest. Even if I did play the games for 'real' money, it's not likely that I could play each casino enough to conclude that they are offering a fair game. Until such time as there is some indisputable regulation of the online casinos, I'm afraid that experiences like yours may be commonplace. That said, it doesn't necessarily mean they are cheating, since there are other reasons why your experienced ended as it did. In addition, the casino was recommended to me by quite a few different readers who had good experiences there. Obviously, we cannot base a casino's rating upon whether someone wins or loses, but we can try to get a sense of its legitimacy by heeding and publishing the comments of those who have played there. Your input is very valuable and much appreciated.

Regarding bonuses, they come and go, so the casino's web site has to always be the final information source on that, but I will change my review if they're no longer offered.

My list is an attempt by one person to make some sense out of all this Internet gambling business and I don't think it's "good", but I do know it's honest, because we, unlike most other sites, aren't compensated by the losses of players. I like to think that the reviews we offer are a reasonable guide within the parameters we try to emphasize: They are based only upon the rules and implied odds of the games of the casino since it's virtually impossible to declare with 100% certainty that any operation is honest.

Yours for winning,
The GameMaster
7/27/2000



Hi:
I just wanted to say I really enjoyed your site and all your helpful information on internet gambling. My boyfriend and I have enjoyed playing on the internet for all your stated reasons: no smoking, good drinks, good company, etc. We have tried Casino on Net, King Solomon's Mines and Tropicana. For the most part everything has been a good experience, unfortunately not exactly profitable, but we did cash in with Caribbean Cyber for $500.00 on a start-up of $20.00 Anyway we are having fun, but I have one specific question, after reading all the reviews of the various software. Specifically, can we assume that if we hit our hand and bust, would that card have been the dealer's next card. In other words there are not 2 decks, one for the dealer's hands, and one for the player's hands.

I certainly hope that is the case, because it is fun to see that sometimes you would have lost with that nasty face card, anyway.
Thanks for your response.
Jeanne
Malibu, California

Hello, Jeanne.
I'm glad you've found our site helpful.

Any legitimate game is going to have the cards dealt from the same deck (or decks, if a multi-deck game), so the answer would be "yes", the card you don't take will be the card the dealer gets.

Yours for winning,
The GameMaster
7/20/2000



GameMaster,
I was wondering where you got the numbers for playing efficiency of Wong's Halves count. You claimed it was 57% but my friends seem to think that Peter Griffin made an error when he gave the same number. Do you know what the true number is?

I used to use the Uston APC and I now use Halves because its easier and I thought that there wasn't enough significant difference since I believed that it was an error. Thank you for your help.

-Chase

Hi, Chase.
I forget exactly where I got that figure but it was, most likely, from Griffin. He very well may have made an error, but I don't think so. If we agree that Hi/Lo has a P.E. of 51%, it's hard to imagine that the Halves count, which also treats the Ace as a 'minus' card, is much higher. That's the real constraint here, since I'm not aware of any count which treats the Ace as something other than zero that has a Playing Efficiency of over 60%. (The "Insurance Count" does and some "computer-level" counts do, but I mean the more common counts). The Uston APC has, as you know, a P.E. of 69% and a lot of that comes from counting the Ace as zero.

But, the Halves count is also much easier to use for long periods of time, so depending upon the type of game you play, you're probably better off where you are right now. If I had to bet, I'd say that a 57% P.E. for the Halves count is correct.

Yours for winning,
The GameMaster
7/20/2000



GameMaster,
Thanks for your help on my basic strategy. I now have it figured out for single and multi deck games with various rules.

I have two more questions for you: 1. What is the edge for single and multideck games with continuous shuffle? I noticed a few games like that at Monte Carlo in Vegas. Also, there a some $5 tables at Cherokee Harrahs, which is close to me. I looked at your "Evaluating Games" and could not find a way to figure it out. The rules are DAS, DOA, re-split everything except aces, dealer stands on all 17's, no surrender.

Continuous shufflers do not affect the casino's edge over the player who uses proper Basic Strategy. Where they hurt is when a player is counting cards, because it's essentially like shuffling after every hand.

2. I played in West Palm Beach (on a boat) that offered surrender. I early- surrendered several times. I think the dealer did not know the difference between early and late surrender. Another dealer took over and he would not let me early surrender. I asked the pit boss and he said that the house rule was late surrender but since the previous dealer allowed early that he would let me early-surrender. I guess my question is what is the norm on something like this? Can they change the rules at a table once they start playing? I noticed this lack of knowledge about surrender at several casinos in Vegas also. When I surrendered (like you taught me) they looked at me like I had the plague. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

The casino can, in most jurisdictions, change the rules at anytime except in the middle of a hand. Oftentimes, they will "grandfather" someone like they did for you, but that's about all you can expect. As for dealers and other players looking at you like you're crazy when you surrender, I run into that all the time. A lot of people think you should "fight out" the hand, but they're wrong, if you can surrender those hands which, on average, will cost you more than 50% of your bet to play out. Keep surrendering when it's appropriate, because it's in your favor.

Yours for winning,
The GameMaster
7/11/2000